






























Study with the several resources on Docsity
Earn points by helping other students or get them with a premium plan
Prepare for your exams
Study with the several resources on Docsity
Earn points to download
Earn points by helping other students or get them with a premium plan
Community
Ask the community for help and clear up your study doubts
Discover the best universities in your country according to Docsity users
Free resources
Download our free guides on studying techniques, anxiety management strategies, and thesis advice from Docsity tutors
Apology of Socrates in main characters of Socrates, Plato’s Socrates vs. other Socrates, two generation of accusers.
Typology: Study notes
1 / 38
This page cannot be seen from the preview
Don't miss anything!
Notes on Plato’s Apology of Socrates
pretty clear that he’s no Sophist. He’s not like those other guys. For one thing, he never takes any money! ii. How do we know who he was?
world—what lies above the sky and below the earth, as the Greeks would say. (Aristophanes made this painfully evident by having the actor portraying Socrates enter the scene while suspending from a crane from above, as if he were descending from the heavens.) What’s worse, he also teaches young Greeks how to make the weaker of two arguments sound like the stronger one, and vice versa. This makes rhetoric—the art of persuading people—more powerful than simply honesty and truth-telling. The result is that Socrates is not only an absurd fool, but perhaps also a dangerous influence.
trial. Over the course of his oration, he addresses not only the members of the jury (men of Athens—the body of democratic citizens), but also his own accusers: Meletus, Anytus, Lycon. If we understand this, we can start to picture a more vivid ‘courtroom-like’ setting for the words on the page.
means. So he must die, and he seems quite willing to accept that fact. This confuses and concerns his friends, which leads to a lengthy discussion about death, life, and the immortality of the soul. ii. Euthyphro as indicative of the aporetic Socrates
to speak off the cuff, not in the language of the law courts or even of the assembly, but rather in the marketplace chatter of the agora. iv. Yet Socrates’ claims here raise another question, the question of sincerity. How sincere is Socrates being here? Is he really going to be speaking at random? Or is he merely using the idea of spontaneity to conceal a deeper plan, a deeper chain of reasoning? Even if he didn’t literally write down his speech beforehand, how do we know that his seemingly off-the-cuff delivery isn’t just another kind of rhetorical ploy? How do we tell the difference between truly spontaneous speech and the stylistic imitation of spontaneity? (Here we’re playing devil’s advocate on behalf of Socrates’ accusers.) v. We shouldn’t neglect to mention that this distinction between persuasion and truth maps nicely onto the broader distinction between the so-called Sophists and the anti-Sophist Socrates. This takes us a bit beyond the text, for now, but it can nevertheless be instructive. It was the Sophists who, according to Plato’s negative account, traveled the cities of Greece dispensing advice about how to convince listeners and thereby gain influence. Truth was a side-issue. The point was not necessarily to speak most truthfully, but to speak most convincingly. Power came through persuasion, not necessarily through honesty. Here, Socrates is positioning himself against that kind of pedagogy. This might then be a shrewd opening move, given that many of his enemies—e.g., Aristophanes—would say that it’s Socrates’ sophistry that makes him so dangerous to the polis of Athens. vi. Socrates ends his opening section on truth and persuasion by reminding the jury what their duty is. Or it might be more accurate to say: he reminds them what their “excellence” is. The word translated as “excellence” here is aretē , which is often translated elsewhere as “virtue.” “Excellence” is a helpful translation, though, since it clears our head of any overly moralizing notions of virtue. The Greek aretē can certainly include moral virtue, but it goes well beyond that. The aretē of a pack- horse, for example, is that it carries a heavy burden without fail. vii. The aretē of a jury or a judge, then, has to do with their excellence in judging. As Socrates puts it: “concentrate your attention on whether what I say is just or not, for the excellence of a judge lies in this, as that of a speaker lies in telling the truth.” (18a) Socrates’ chosen form of speaking is then not just more honest than the persuasive words of his opponents, but also more excellent or
virtuous—precisely because the excellence or virtue of speech is telling the truth. (At least, this is what Socrates argues…) c. Two Generations of Accusers i. Socrates’ opening remarks conclude with a preview of the accusations he is about to respond against. As he tells us right away, these accusations derive from two main sources, two generations of accusers. First there was a group of older men who had always found Socrates to be a thorn in their side. They laid the groundwork for his bad reputation, most effectively by telling their children that Socrates was a terrible influence. Then came the younger, more recent accusers, whose accusations have led to Socrates’ legal troubles and the current trial. ii. Socrates next tells us that he will address each of these generations of accusers in turn. Because they came first and laid the groundwork, the older generation of men will be his first target. After that, he’ll move on to the younger prosecutors. Here he mentions only Anytus, (18b) although later we’ll also hear about Meletus and Lycon. iii. According to Socrates, the content of the first batch of accusations was contained in what they told their children: “they got hold of most of you from childhood, persuaded you and accused me quite falsely, saying that there is a man called Socrates, a wise man, a student of all things of the sky and below the earth, who makes the worse argument the stronger. Those who spread that rumor, gentlemen, are my dangerous accusers, for their hearers believe that those who study these things do not even believe in the gods.” (18b-c) iv. We can perhaps divide this initial accusation into a series of three:
iii. Socrates’ defense here is to point to the jury’s own experience encountering him in person: “I do not speak in contempt of such knowledge—lest Meletus bring more cases against me—but, gentlemen, I have no part in it, and on this point I call upon the majority of you as witnesses. I think it right that all those of you who have heard me conversing, and many of you have, should tell each other if any one of you has ever heard me discussing such subjects to any extent at all.” (19c-d) iv. Socrates’ rejoinder here is surprisingly empirical. He has no high- minded argument to make concerning such high-minded knowledge. Instead, he asks his fellow citizens to think back on their own interactions with him. He’s asking them to put some distance between his reputation—ruined by Aristophanes and Meletus and other accusers—and his actual conduct in their presence. v. In addition to that, Socrates seems to swallow the second accusation—making the weaker argument into the stronger (19b)—into the first accusation. It’s as if this accusation of inverting arguments is tied directly to the accusation concerning natural and supernatural knowledge. Because of that, his plea to the jury to think back on their personal encounters is also aimed at countering the second accusation. b. $ophistry i. Of course, making the weaker argument sound stronger is what the Sophists were known for—and Socrates doesn’t want the jury to think of him as a Sophist! He makes that very clear in his next set of comments. ii. Somewhat surprisingly, however, his main complaint now is the idea that people think he takes money for teaching students: “And if you have heard from anyone that I undertake to teach people and charge a fee for it, that is not true either.” (19d) This is not something that’s listed in the original slate of accusations. (Doth he protest too much?) Yet, for Socrates, the issue of payment seems to be indelibly linked to that of sophistry and, therefore, of guilt. iii. His next move is to throw a number of ‘real’ Sophists under the bus—Gorgias, Prodicus, Hippias. These are the bad eggs. These are the false teachers coming into Athens—often from abroad, these foreign outsiders—and bilking young men out of their money. (19e) Here it almost seems like Socrates doesn’t necessarily disagree with his accusers when it comes to the
possibility that sophistic teaching corrupts the youth and undermines the city. It’s just that he himself is not one of those guilty corruptors! iv. One of the most egregious cases of sophistry, Socrates tell us, has to do with Evenus of Paros, whose teaching services were paid for at great cost by the Athenian Callias, on behalf of his own sons. Callias paid Evenus five minas, which was equivalent to 500 drachmas. Given that the average laborer made about one drachma per day, this was a decent wage. v. So what was it that Evenus professed to teach Callias? It was, in Socrates’ words, the content of human excellence—again, aretē. More specifically, this was a kind of social or political excellence— aretē politikē. (20b) In Socrates’ eyes, access to this kind of human-political virtue would indeed be worth a tidy sum. His sarcasm, however, indicates that he doesn’t think Evenus actually capable of teaching others to be virtuous or excellent in this way. Less sarcastically, he makes it clear that he himself is incapable of doing so as well (and he’s never claiming to be able to!): “Certainly I would pride and preen myself if I had this knowledge, but I do not have it, gentlemen.” (20c) c. The Source of Rumors i. Having defended himself from charges of (super-)natural knowledge, perversion of arguments, and plain old sophistry, Socrates next anticipates a possible counterpoint. If Socrates doesn’t have special knowledge about the world, if he doesn’t use language to destabilize arguments, if he doesn’t take money for his services, then—why is he at trial? Where do all of these accusations come from? Out of thin air? ii. Socrates admits that there might be some reasons that these accusations have arisen. That’s not to say that they’re well- grounded. Rather, certain events may have taken place which, if misunderstood, could have led certain enemies to form negative notions about Socrates’ lifestyle and occupation. iii. In order to repair his reputation against such slander, Socrates begins to tell his own story: “Perhaps some of you will think I am jesting, but be sure that all that I shall say is true. What has caused my reputation is none other than a certain kind of wisdom. What kind of wisdom? Human wisdom, perhaps. It may be that I really possess this, while those whom I mentioned just now are wise with a wisdom more than human; else I cannot explain it, for I
am not wise at all; what then does he mean by saying that I am the wisest? For surely he does not lie; it is not legitimate for him to do so.” (21b) e. Devising a Test i. Not one to stay still or satisfied in confusion, Socrates next devised a plan. He would go around Athens testing out different men who were said to be wise. By talking to them and asking them questions, he would be able to figure out if he was indeed wiser than them (which would indeed be surprising). ii. First, he went to a politician. Everyone though this great statesman possessed exceptional wisdom. But when Socrates interrogated him, he was left with the following impression: “I thought that he appeared wise to many people and especially to himself, but he was not. I then tried to show him that he thought himself wise, but that he was not.” (21c-d) iii. Here Socrates is opening up a gap between appearance and being, between what seems to be the case and what actually is. Wisdom, in his estimation, only counts if someone actually has it, not if they merely appear to have it. The politician lets Socrates down precisely because he only has a veneer of wisdom. Deep down, he’s not much different from anyone else. iv. Even after testing out just this one man, Socrates begins to acquire a new perspective on the oracle’s proclamation. He thought to himself, “I am wiser than this man; it is likely that neither of us knows anything worthwhile, but he thinks he knows something when he does not, whereas when I do not know, neither do I think I know; so I am likely to be wiser to this small extent, that I do not think I know what I do not know.” (21d) v. Now we can begin to catch a glimpse of Socrates’ more nuanced interpretation of Apollo’s prophecy. The point is not that he, Socrates, possesses huge amounts of special wisdom. Rather, his ‘wisdom’ mostly consists in not assuming that he knows a bunch of things that he doesn’t in fact know. His wisdom lies in his caution, his reflection, his questioning, not in rushing to claim all knowledge for himself. f. Testing the Rest i. After quizzing the politician, Socrates turns to other members of society who might be said to have wisdom. He frames this testing as a kind of divine mission—an “investigation in the service of the god.” (22a) What he begins to find is that those who have the biggest reputation for wisdom tend to have the least, while those
with less of a reputation tend to have a surprising amount of human wisdom. ii. After the politicians, then, he turns to the poets. Almost immediately, he determines that poets don’t know what they’re talking about, for the most part. Even though they can create great works of art that move us so deeply, they can barely explain what they’re doing or what it means. In that way, they’re more like “seers and prophets,” moved by inspiration rather than knowledge. (22b-c) iii. After the poets come the craftsmen. To a certain extent, the craftsmen do possess an impressive array of knowledge. But their knowledge is technical—that is, it has to do with their specific crafts. A great carpenter has an amazing amount of knowledge about carpentry—but that doesn’t necessarily mean they know more in general. Socrates is concerned about the human propensity to take skill ( technē ) in one field as indicative of wisdom more broadly. He calls this a plain “error.” (22c-d) g. Socrates’ Findings i. After quizzing the politicians, the poets, the craftsmen, and many other men of Athens, Socrates begins to refine his interpretation of Apollo’s prophecy. Whereas everyone else thought he was just trying to make himself look smart by making others look dumb, he was actually discovering a deeper truth about the chasm between divine and human wisdom. ii. As Socrates puts it: “in each case the bystanders thought that I myself possessed the wisdom that I proved that my interlocutor did not have. What is probable, gentlemen, is that in fact the god is wise and that his oracular response meant that human wisdom is worth little or nothing, and that when he says this man, Socrates, he is using my name as an example, as if he said, ‘This man among you, mortals, is wisest who, like Socrates, understands that his wisdom is worthless.’” (23a-b) iii. For a human, then, to be ‘wise’ may just be to recognize the limits and shortcomings of one’s own wisdom. In its beginnings, at least, Socrates’ wisdom is more negative than it is positive. That is: he is wiser because he knows that he does not know everything. h. Transitioning to the Current Case i. After defending his modified claim to human wisdom, Socrates then returns to this idea that his accusers fall into two generational categories. He has so far been responding to the first generation, who had a problem with him specifically. This is most likely
text doesn’t adopt a script-like format. It merely represents Meletus’ response after a dash, following Socrates’ question. iv. The first question Socrates asks is a loaded one: “Surely you consider it of the greatest importance that our young men be as good as possible?” (24d) “Indeed I do!” replies Meletus. The problem, of course, is that Meletus thinks Socrates, far from improving the youth, actually corrupts the youth whom he’s supposedly helping. v. But, asks Socrates, if I corrupt the youth, then who improves them? What standard am I being held up against? When pressed to reveal ‘who’ is actually capable of improving youth Athenians, Meletus responds: “the laws.” (24d-e) vi. Socrates is not satisfied with that answer. He wants to know “who” improves the youth, not “what.” The laws alone can’t do much without an interpreter, someone to help young people learn what the laws really mean. vii. So who is it that has knowledge of the laws? The jury, perhaps? And probably the audience in the court of law, as well. And then the government, ruling powers like the Assembly and the more rarefied Council—they know the laws fairly well, don’t they? After Meletus has agreed to all this, Socrates gets him to agree also that “all the Athenians” know the laws and can therefore improve young men by training them in the laws. (25a) Thus it’s only Socrates that corrupts young men, while basically everyone else in Athens is capable of improving them. How unlucky for Socrates! viii. The point Socrates is getting at here seems to be this: it doesn’t seem likely that the vast majority of people in a city would be capable of improving the youth of that city. Rather, it seems much more likely that there would be a smaller group of people—e.g., teachers—who would be tasked with improving the youth and preparing them for public service. But Meletus seems to have it backward: almost anyone could improve the youth by interpreting the laws for them—except Socrates! ix. To drive the point home—almost to the point of absurdity— Socrates turns to one of his favorite animal analogies: that of horses. With horses, he suggests, it’s not at all the case that just anyone is capable of improving them—i.e., of making them better horses, better at racing or better at hauling carts. Rather, we have special people whose job it is to improve horses, to raise them and train them. Horse breeders, we call them.